My conversations with Abhi-04
My conversations with Abhi-04
excerpts frm a chat with a friend
ABHI: I think I’ve told u earlier that I’ve played my innings..It is to some extent true..I know u feel urself young & that is conspicuous from ur writings also..But what I mean to say is i do not feel my heart resonate with the slightest change in the direction of winds as it used to do in my youth..That’s a real tragedy, Dibya my dear…
DIBYA: u r playing ur real innings now Abhi….. when ur hand is steady…..knowing full well what it wants..
and ur heart and eyes r focused…cutting away all fetters…u emerge as you….
ABHI: R u so well focussed, Dibya? If it is so, I must put my hats off to u..
DIBYA: well i wud like to think i am Abhi…but i wud have to stand the test of time… i think i will
and something tells me you will too……u just have a bit of a fog before you.. but you have the penetrating gaze that will clear this fog
ABHI: Tell me very honestly Dibya…. do u love the world with the same intensity as u used to love it in ur teens?
DIBYA: much more now than ever Abhi..at that time…my mind was clouded with illusions..
which crashed against realities and shattered me..now I see things for what they are ….I do not nurture any illusion…..I love life for the things in it that r lovable.. and I know the art of ignoring what I do not like..
coz me not liking certain things is not going to change things…..so I will not allow myself to suffer for that which I cannot change…… there is only one thing which kills me..
ABHI: What is that?
DIBYA: and I have no hold over it..it will go with me beyond this life..my eternal quest…
this yearning that I feel deep down.. often have I looked at the skies.. I feel like standing in the middle of a desert and screaming my guts out….. I want to know..if there is no water that can quench this thirst….
why did he create me with this kind of insatiable thirst..
ABHI: U know Dibya…. as experiences of life enrich us, so can it impoverish us…
DIBYA: I have been thro hell Abhi……but I am richer today than I ever was..
ABHI: Dibya , sometimes I feel that life is a great hoax..It creates so much illusion at every stage that sometimes I’m confused abt. the truth..
DIBYA: I dont know Abhi…i went thro’ that stage……but the veils have lifted….things r much clearer to me now..
ABHI: As I told u the day before yesterday, that u r closer to the truth..I repeat it once again..
DIBYA: I feel the truth lies somewhere deep within us……I have ruthlessly pierced my heart and cut it and let it bleed….to be able to see and acknowledge this truth….and single handedly and with determination have I stitched it up again…… it requires will power …..the desire to see things as they are…..and a refusal to give in to delusions..Abhi… listen to this video….it has my soul in it…
in strange lands..
strange lanes ….
do laugh at my loneliness
for a long while..
did i just keep walking on..
for a long while…
did u keep intruding upon my thoughts..
poison i kept getting..
poison did I keep drinking
everyday did i die..
to live each day out..
Life did keep testing my timber..
and i did the same..
testing what life was all abt..
when wounds ravaged my heart…
life seemed to smile on me..
like the chords of a veena,
did i keep getting strung..
and kept getting hurt..
and kept smiling all the while..
kept singing thro’ my tears..
i kept lighting the lamp of my life..
they kept dousing the flame
ABHI: U r intensely romantic, Dibya ..Perhaps, even more than me..A very innocuous question, …Why r all ur characters in the video, women?
DIBYA: I told you Abhi…the song is an expression of my soul… the faces captures exactly what I want to say…… why then do u think my heart yearns to stand in the midst of a desert and scream so that my scream wud cut across all boundaries of time and space….and resonate
till it found that which it searches for…… i had written something abt this in my diary at the age of 17…..
at that time there were dreams…. coloured dreams….and i had thought life was all abt dreams ……
now..i know..that life is all abt dreams… that’s why i look skyward and say… if he cannot let the heart have that which it so desires…….why does he create such hearts……what does he aim to achieve?
what is the purpose of his creation?…. why life?
ABHI: A very good Q…….It is simply great that u’re still searching for answers to these Questions…
DIBYA: no Abhi….i am just trying to come to terms with myself… I do not wish to take this yearning unsatiated , beyond the threshold of this life……and yet I wonder…I am indeed not the only one..
many before have traversed the same path…. and many more will do the same….
i had written these lines in a poem…….
laakhon jaa chuke humse pehle, isi raaste..
ek hum hi toh nahi is kaarvaan mein shaamil..
but i wonder abt Him…
what is his game?
in which we r the happless coins?
ABHI: U know Dibya u’d get each & every shade of our life, our thought processes, our love, pain, agony, exaltation, ecstasy in the poems of Tagore and that too at its highest imagination..I’ll send u some glimpses of it.. It is very difficult to distinguish his love poems from devotional poems..His seasonal songs from love songs…..Not a single emotion which we can conceive of has been left by him..As I told u earlier poetry is not just what it tells but it is equally important how it tells..The style with which he deals with his poems is something divine which cannot be explained in words….
DIBYA: that is the beauty of all all gud compositions Abhi…. it is aimed at that entity for which the soul yearns…..makes love and God synonomous….so there indirectly i have defined love..it is divinity personified….. i have had the highest regard for Tagore, Abhi….. though i have read only some translations….recently i explained a poem of his to my students..it is called Gitanjali
it says God is not to be found within the mere walls of a temple…..if seek him you must , then seek him in the dust and toil of the path maker and of the labourer
ABHI: In a song of rains he writes, “Have mercy on me, my love/ Keep ur light on my soul/ My eyes r full of tears in my sleep/In my dream I saw ur shadow/ I’ve a great doubt whether u really came or, not”
DIBYA:beautiful..it makes some chord witthin me vibrate….and i feel as he must’ve felt when he wrote these lines….. such poems make me feel one with the entire universe Abhi..…and to think that i wasted so many years not learning Bengali..
ABHI :”U have made me cry with ur love/ I feel myself ecstatic in my pains”
Have u read these two lines from Tagore?
DIBYA: those words of Tagore seem to be speaking my heart..now why is it that i feel poets speak exactly the language of my heart?….you know i’ve written a poem abt this too..
why is it that the pen is that of the poet..
but what issues forth is not ink frm his pen..
but blood oozing out frm my heart
that is what i had written….. in hindi ofcourse
ABHI: “I won’t light my candle on the niche/ I will only listen to words of light coming from the distant darkness of the sky..” - Tagore….have u followed that he is listening to the ‘words of light’..?
DIBYA: yes …..that is indeed the beauty of the poem….. or rather that is poetry itself..
the depth of vision and perception, that his words betray..words of light coming from the distant darkness of the sky.. u see the more u see the light in those words……the more u see the poetic beauty….of the poet’s creation..there is poetry not only in his words..but in his thoughts …and in his heart as well..
ABHI:But the unique way in which he writes these poems cannot be transmitted through translation..
DIBYA: Abhi.. if u want a pearl u will delve into the depths of the ocean for it
so if i want to get at the bottom of someone’s poetry.. i will delve into the depths of the translated versions and find the soul of the poet therein
ABHI: Wow ! Beautiful realisation..



My conversations with Abhi-03
Posted by deby in Uncategorized on January 9th, 2010
excerpts frm a chat with a friend
My conversations with Abhi-03
ABHI …Btw. Do u originally belong to North India..?
DIBYA: no…..but what makes you ask me that?
ABHI: Because u know Hindi so well..It is difficult for a Southie to know Hindi with such elan…
DIBYA: i am not what u think…… but hindi is’nt my mother tongue either..
i told you..there r many things abt me that surprise me.. my penchant for Hindi and Urdu being one of them..
ABHI: It seems to be a riddle to me..Then where do u actually hail from?
DIBYA: ha ha Abhi……. well i am just a human..is’nt that enough……not defined by any specific locality, or community…
i subscribe to no single school of thought or religion or geographical boundaries..
ABHI: checkmate..I won’t ask u any further question abt. this..U r very quick in thinking ..I must admit that..
DIBYA: no…..nothing like that…i’d soon be telling you my whole lineage……if u let me….but that wud’nt define me…that is what i meant to say…so i want u to know me for what i am first…the details that usually influence somebody’s perception of another..i dont want that to come in the way, that’s all..
ABHI: I got u as a human being & that’s all because this should be the first & last identity of any person…I’m surprised to note that u’ve got so much energy , at this stage…
DIBYA: hey……what’s this abt energy at this stage..?….u know i found that life really begins at this stage…….when u’ve had a chance to discover urself …..when u’ve had a chance to explore urself…….and you get to know urself better.. u have a better perception of the world around you..u have ur priorities balanced..the first half of life u r only busy doing what u’ve been taught to do…..u hardly let urself grow that way, in the way u were meant to grow..
ABHI: U’r absolutely right Dibya..I’m fully at one with u..But ask any other Indian woman & u’d get the answer..Here we’r taught to renounce the normal growth of life for the sake of future life..Here, u won’t be allowed to think independently..People who don’t matter in ur life r there to guide u through ur personal affairs..
DIBYA: u know that’s why i hate to introduce myself in the usual way first..becoz i dont really fit in anywhere,Abhi….my thinking defines me….not any community or nationality…and as u say…ppl whom ur mind scoffs at deign to tell u things..when u can see through and through that , they r but clones…trying to carry on a meaningless legacy of thoughts and beliefs….that’s why…i just shake off such shackles..and give my heart and mind a full run…..i am on my own , what u say….i have my own perceptions and visions…..i have had occasion to debate with the best of them… but none has managed to really satisfy my ever questioning mind…
ABHI: ..U know Lord Buddha said, “Atmodeepo Vaba” which means ‘be ur own light’..No one can find out the light for u unless u urself earn it through odds & ordeals of life..Arguments can never take u to HIM..In our youth we argue too much..But as we grow older we find that the inclined sun is giving out a light which does not burn but soothes us..Isn’t that true?
DIBYA: yeah…..
ABHI: U see, sometimes I feel that had I been born in a family of the feudal lords of the19th century I could well afford to live a leisurely life. I could then purchase a lot of books for my library. Could sit under the sun in winter & read good books. There would have been no tension of daily life. There wouldn’t have been any hustle & bustle of pseudo urban life. I could concentrate on listening to the songs of the birds……. the monotonous sound of doves in the summer noon…… the jubilant sound of the sparrows in the winter morning……I could talk to the river. Rivers always try to say something. If only we can keep ourselves awake u can hear it. The silence of mountains could also be understood by me then.
DIBYA: these things speak louder than any book ever cud Abhi..these r books etched with the story of centuries..
the stories of the birds..of the plants…of every soul that ever lived….of histories gone by..of the secrets Creation holds in its womb..one has to listen with the heart..or rather the heart has to be tuned to it…the palpitation of Nature’s heart..and that of the one that beats inside you..can be set to the same rhythm…..beating as one..that is when you transcend all boundaries of time and space..all that the world holds precious dissolves into nothingness before you, and that which becomes precious to you..none can take it away from you..it is yours for the asking..the boundaries that the world sets cease to have any meaning for you..u fly as free as a bird..and that is ecstacy Abhi…you feel you have fulilled the purpose of Creation when you can go into such rapture……
ABHI: We’re the children of that palpitation. Have u ever heard the whispers of winds through the dry leaves in the spring? It is not an inanimate thing. It is a living being.
DIBYA: they hold within them the tales of a thousand ages Abhi …and they flow like sweet music into your ears…..and the sky, o-er head…the clouds…dont they sing too….?….and the stars……often have i lain on the terrace gazing at the sky….and the birds, on their long journeys…..my heart tunes to the notes they play..and throbs with the stories they tell…for hours together I have communed with these..and tried to find myself…in the scheme of things……
ABH,: There is a piece of Tagore which says, “In the darkness of my silent speech, Ur perceptions belong like the stars…”
DIBYA: hmmmmmm….he wrote wonderfully well…
ABHI: R there hills nearby, where u live Dibya?
DIBYA: yes……the sunset and sunrise r beautiful..
ABHI: They R beautiful even in cities like Kolkata or, Mumbai. aren’t they?…
Actually I feel that Sunrise & Sunset have some stories of their own….. and those r very mystic….
DIBYA: :)…am telling you what i see and enjoy over here…i know i cud enjoy it anywhere..
ABHI :do you enjoy doing childish things sometimes?
DIBYA :if I told you now..Abhi..look at the sky…this moment..wud you?….plz do…gaze into the sky actually….
ABHI: I’ve a strong friendship with the night sky. Whenever I request him to come down to my window & sit & chat with me he comes…… Today is a full moon night.
DIBYA: that’s what i am getting at…wud you look at the moon for a few moments now?
ABHI: I can see the moon floating across the sky laughingly.
DIBYA: and i can see it too…dont you see what i am driving at?
ABHI: what do u want to allude to?
DIBYA: you tell me..
ABHI: That the beauty of the moon which u’r watching frm ur place can never be realised here frm my place?
DIBYA: no Abhi…..the beauty lies not in the moon..it lies in that particular moment of time…when you and I conversing across the miles…….our eyes meet at the same moment on something as distant as the moon..and in that one moment we have crossed the barriers of space..or distance and we have met…….we have defied every law of nature…
ABHI: Wow! What a great idea! The same moon is shining over the mighty snow clad peaks of the Himalayas!
DIBYA: yes..and that is why i can be one with the Universe at will…. i dont have to travel physically to go some place or to meet someone..i can cut through barriers..if what you see with your physical eye, can get photographed in your memory..
then can you not see with ur mind’s eye…….and enjoy the same experience? such is the power of the mind..and of the heart and the soul..
ABHI: “I’ve tried to find him out in so many places……. But when I came back to my place exhausted I found that he is within myself..”-Tagore
DIBYA: makes perfect sense does’nt he?…”Divinity is within u..the purpose of all life is to strive to manifest that divinity within..u r a temple of God”…..Vivekanand.
“He is not to be found within the four walls of a temple.”…..Tagore
ABHI: But, the idea is elusive! Our Ego wud definitely stand in the way….It is so difficult to fight against our ego!
DIBYA: i dont find it difficult at all Abhi…….u just have to shed all defences and become fearless..and let urself merge with Him..
ABHI: I think u’ve progressed a lot in this path. Btw, Dibya, how did u like my idea of being born in the 19th century?
DIBYA: hahahaha, Abhi…. why particularly the 19th century..?….and that too as against a feudal backdrop?
ABHI: Coz feudalism was at its peak in India in the 19th century. And in 18th century I wouldn’t have got printed books.
DIBYA: There is a lot of dirt associated with feudalism Abhi……
“Leave this chanting and telling of beads!..whom dost thou worship in this lonely dark corner of a temple with doors all shut?..Open thine eyes and see,,.Thy God is not before thee..!!!He is there , where the farmer is tilling the hard ground..and where the pathmaker is breaking stones.He is with them in sun and in shower and His garment is covered with dust. Put off thy holy mantle..and even like Him..come down upon the dusty soil……”
ABHI: U’r quoting from Tagore, the son of a feudal lord. ha, ha, ha, ha, ha..
DIBYA: ..it is a commentary not only on the zamindari system of the time..indeed it tells abt how we shd look for God, not in the temple..but rather in the joys and sorrows of our fellowmen..so it is our interaction with God’s creation……that is important….not mere worshipping within the four walls of a temple…… u might find God in the simple man you come across, or in your own attittude towards others..nay…God is not hungry for our praise and worship..
ABHI : hmmmmm
DIBYA :did i tell you that i was born in Lucknow?
ABHI: No, u kept it a mystery.
DIBYA:ha ha ha…..my dad was posted there when i was born…he is an ex-army personnel
ABHI: But u said that u do not belong to the North either.
DIBYA: no………..its a very long story Abhi….i cud write a whole novel on that
ABHI: Do u actually belong to U.P.?..or the south?
DIBYA: no……i told you…..my dad happened to be posted there…but i guess some north indian soul got into me when i
was born… the way my heart beats for the north……and as u say my command over hindi and urdu…which nobody can explain.. :) so maybe if i study myself deeper..i might prove the theory of rebirth..
ABHI: So, u r making it more mysterious..Plz. tell me clearly which place do u actually belong to?
DIBYA: dad was originally frm Coimbatore….Madras..lost his parents in infancy……was constantly in danger of life..frm relatives coz of property….ran away to the convent to the nun who taught him.. she brought him up… he was a Hindu….she gifted him a Bible and a Bhagwat Gita……. he grew up on those…. she introduced him to many Hindu girls..he was’nt keen on anyone.. met my mother thro’ the nun…married her……she is a Catholic…..and we children have grown up on the Bible and the Gita..so now tell me Abhi..where do i belong?….you know my thinking and my inclinations..
ABHI : U actually belong to the universe, Dibya..I’d only one curiosity to know how u could be so gud in Urdu & Hindi …..
DIBYA : that even i cannot say Abhi..coz though i was born in Lucknow, …they brought me away when my dad was again transferred..must ‘ve been a 2 yr old then,,….then Ahmedabad……Gwalior..once i started schooling..dad left my mom here with her mother…and this became our base.. and i dont identify with any place or community or religion…..
so what do i tell anyone who asks me where I am frm..?
ABHI: ur story sounds like a novel..
DIBYA: i told you so..
my conversations with Abhi-02
Posted by deby in Uncategorized on January 3rd, 2010
excerpts frm a chat with a friend
My conversations with Abhi-02
ABHI : U know medical science says that around 50 withdrawal symptoms start..Whatever was given to us by God is taken away one by one by Him..
DIBYA : the wear and tear of any ,machine…….simple law of nature Abhi
ABHI :This is why I feel that our mind matures but our body gives way to Time, the supreme ruler of the universe… It is very difficult to accept this obvious phenomenon though..
DIBYA : more than being difficult to accept…..it is difficult to understand…….it is baffling is’nt it?
ABHI :Exactly so…Looking back I feel that it is only the other day I came to this earth..I can clearly remember my school days & college days as if they can be touched if I wish..As if they r sitting just beside me & talking to me in whispers…
DIBYA :memories have a way of getting filed in our system Abhi…..
gud ones… bad ones..so also experiences..or rather the mark they leave on our minds and hearts
……
ABHI : But don’t u find our brains amazing? It keeps something very trivial for 30 years with full care, but wipes out major events of life ruthlessly..It is really amazing!
DIBYA :I have commented on this many a times…
i think it has got something to do with the survival instinct…. the mind retains that which is conducive….the rest it tries to push into the interiors of the subconscious…..but there again…what goes into that realm of our existence never really disappears….
given the circumstances it gets triggered with an intensity that is surpising…. scars specially have a way of getting etched in the psyche..
ABHI : Absolutely true..Btw, Dibya…. I’ve got a nice idea..If u approve, we can write a story together..If u allow me I can start it…
DIBYA :u mean we cud do that?
ABHI :Certainly..Let me start it…
Once upon a time there was a fairy..She was as beautiful as a tulip, as soft as clouds & as tender as the moon..She had many admirers as it happens to be a lively girl like her..But she secretly loved a prince who was the son of the god of winds..One day she met the prince in a forest..Her heart started to throb so loud that the leaves of the trees started shaking..She became so red that the leaves became red also..She tried to say something to the prince but in the beginning could not express herself..But ultimately she could manage to say, “…” (U write what she could say)
DIBYA: ae hawa..yun mujhe chookar , mujhmein na jaane kitne taar ched kar tu yun nikal jaatha hai…..dhun jo nikalthi hai, tere choone se, mere dil mein yun goonj ut-the hain, taraane…kabhi ruk kar sun…..kya tera dil ise sun itraata nahi hai?……..dekh..yahaan har kali kaise muskura uthi hai, jaadu tune aisa kiya hai, mere jahaan mein……
Abhi, i wrote it the way it came to me..
ABHI : The prince said, “Oh my beautiful queen! I’ve no words to express my gratitude to God! He has sent u here. But the problem is I’m already engaged to a girl.”
DIBYA :ohhh………..now what?
ABHI : But alas! As we all know love is blind. It is not rational. It gets doubled when refused. So, the fairy became envious of the girl & wanted to know more abt. her from the prince. She asked the prince, “…”
DIBYA : well..this part is gonna be difficult for me….i’ll have to pretend to be what i am not and put myself in her shoes…
ABHI: But how can I write this Dibya? It is the mind of a lady & should better be described by u.
DIBYA : yeah….:)
so i’ll try..i am a lady Abhi.. and you know what i’d do if i was in that situation..???
u know that saying?…never try to keep a bird captive..let it fly free..if it is urs it will come back to you..if it is’nt ……it was never meant to be……
ABHI : I’ve something very serious to say now. Have u noticed that the most difficult part of a story is to write proper dialogues? This is why u’d find that most of our writers narrate stories…. coz in that case u’ve the opportunities to express ur own views. But in case of a dialogue u’ve to put urself into the other’s shoes. U see u’ve put a long speech in the mouth of the fairy in the beginning….. but, is it practically possible for a girl to say such a lot to her heart- throb in the first instance?
DIBYA : well..I happen to really believe this….what r u trying to say Abhi?
ABHI :Only that we never put ourselves into other’s shoes. We do not try to feel other’s agony & ecstacy, joys & sorrows, pain & success..
And here starts all our conflicts..We always try to see that our problems get solved & in the process we do not care abt other’s feelings..
DIBYA : Abhi…do come straight to the point……..tell me more abt yourself…..
else this discussion will lead us nowhere…
ABHI : What do u want to know Dibya? I couldn’t get u. This is an academic discussion. Do u feel that we should not continue this?
DIBYA : you realize Abhi..u do betray a certain amt of bitterness , …..which gives one the feeling that there is much more to what you say than one can visualize..
ABHI : I’m awfully sorry for that. Have I hurt ur sentiments? Actually I wanted to draw ur attention to the fact that while reading a story we usually do not follow its mechanism. This is the craftmanship part of an art. What we give stress on, is the contents of the art. But the best of our heritage of art has underlying mechanism to be achieved through a long perseverance & toil..
DIBYA: it depends what u r inclined to achieve Abhi… there are those that toil to reach a destination..and those that derive happiness from the journey itself..they may or not make it to the destination……and they cud’nt care less…coz eventually….life is abt how we live it…what lies ahead is too unpredictable…conflicts arise out of setting urself goals, that while they may appear lofty usually crash on the rocks of reality..
ABHI : A true artist never tries to reach any destination coz he knows that there is nothing of that sort..He tries to describe the world as he sees it..He can see something different from the rest of the people with his third eye..
DIBYA : precisely Abhi……an artist shd express things as he sees it…..else his writing wud be bereft of his soul…….and he wud be doing a grave injustice to the reader…
I personally never attempt something which does’nt carry a part of me in it……in my writings I offer you a part of me…….and I dont care if I am labelled a gud writer or not coz I mean to only express myself..I do not pretend to be able to teach you something ..neither will I pretend to be what I am not…
ABHI : Exactly so. And in expressing his soul properly he needs to toil for the exact language. That is what I wanted to allude. But my humble request to u is not to take it at a personal level. It is absolutely an abstract discussion. I’ve been trying myself for long to find out the exact characteristics of art, the complex mind behind it. I wanted to simply share it with u coz I found a highly intellectual & inquisitive mind in u…
DIBYA : I used myself as an example Abhi…… nothing personal, I know…rest assured
coming to an artist……Abhi……I found that be it a poet or a writer of prose..or a painter…..or one skilled in the art of sketching…a sculptor..or a singer.. he has a heart and soul within him that vibrates and throbs on a different level from that of the common man.. he is tuned to a certain wavelength that is uncommon..which enables him to see beyond the obvious….his mind is seething with questions to which he seeks answers…
not becoz he is ignorant .. but coz he knows..how much there is to know..and how little he knows.. and in this self-searching and trying to understand his place in the scheme of Creation..he hears the tunes that others do not hear.. here language becomes but a tool to him,if he is a writer….. the colours and strokes become a tool to the painter….and the chisel, gives expression to the inner self of the sculptor.. and in trying to express himself….his heart and mind strive to find that which best expresses what he wishes to convey and i respect true artists for their attempt..and ability to play with the tool at their disposal
ABHI: Beautifully expressed..I fully agree with u..”And the ability to play with the tool at their disposal”..This is the point I wanted to bring to ur notice..
Now I’ll tell u the other part of the story..I find there r broadly three kinds of people..One who is blessed with this capability, the other who does’nt even care abt. it & some others who feel it in their heart but cannot express themselves..They’re the cursed ones..Here lies my grievances against God..If He didn’t endow me with the power to translate my mind into words then why did He give me a mind full of questions? This creates a fathomless agony within me…
DIBYA : can I try to tell you something? when you have something to say…….the heart usually finds its way…. it is the mind that scoffs at the method in which the heart may express itself…. it is the mind that looks for finesse in the method..
but dont you realize.. the human heart can be the most beautiul of God’s creations..
the mind can be no equal for it….in many ways.. so just let the heart speak..
and no matter abt the method..whether it be labelled this or that.. What one feels and thinks is what matters.. and if you can find those souls on earth with whom you can connect.. that is true communion with another…and with God..
ABHI : Then let us try again to finish the story of the fairy.. It was ur turn, I think..The fairy tried to know something more abt. the girl from the prince…
DIBYA : so the girl has to be a bit envious right?
ABHI : Yes, but discreetly..
DIBYA : u know Abhi, …..if the fairy really loved the prince, she wud simply let him be….her self respect too matters you know…if he was worthy of her love her love wud draw him towards her…she need’nt know abt the other girl…..
ABHI: But love is irrational..And possession cannot be absolutely neglected in a love affair..
DIBYA: I doubt I cud do justice to the nature of this fairy of yours Abhi….
she goes against my grain absolutely.. for me love is something very sacred…..shall i stray frm the topic slightly?
ABHI : O.K. let’s give the story, a turn..The fairy went back disheartened & started emaciating day by day..She could not eat properly, her sleep was disturbed & gradually she became pale..One day she heard a familiar voice …….She came out and saw the prince standing at her door..Seeing him she felt that a locked gate has been opened in her..Emotions flowing out of her eyes like floods,she asked the prince in a feeble voice, “…”
DIBYA: if the prince came back to her, she wud wait for him say something wud’nt she? what is it that he wud say?
ABHI : “How r u my dear?”
DIBYA : My fairy wud try to find out how he was , before letting her emotions flow….what brought him there..whether all was well with him..
ABHI : Oh! U r as sceptic as any other lady, my dear..Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha..
DIBYA :Abhi..if she found that he had come back for her.. she wud just let her defences down…..she wud lay her head on his chest and let the tears flow…
surrendering to him totally.. and her tears and silence wud tell him all he needed to know……words wud be superfluous……
ABHI: O.K. I’ll try to give an explanation…The prince said, “My Dear, I lied to you..It was not possible for me to get into a love affair at that point of time coz a demon wanted to dethrone my father from his kingship..I had to fight against him..I didn’t know whether I’d survive or not in the battle..So, I refused ur love then..I didn’t want to involve ur fate with mine at that time..Now that I’ve come out with flying colours, I’ve come to see whether ur love for me is still there , or has it dried up in the scorching rays of life..
DIBYA : her eyes wud tell him all he needed to know Abhi…they wud mirror the love she nurtured in her heart for him..and she still wud’nt need words to convey her love for him…..
Abhi: But the pride of the fairy was hurt..She had suffered a lot coz of a lie..She said, “But I’ve spent myself up, my dear..Now I’ve nothing to offer u..”
DIBYA: that is why i said, i wud’nt be able to do justice to ur fairy..
for me..true love knows no pride or envy or ego….self respect yes…
pride or ego….no..!!!
ABHI: Then u want to stop the story here..O.K. let them live happily for ever..U start another story..I’d try to follow u…
My conversations with Abhi-01
Posted by deby in Uncategorized on December 28th, 2009
excerpts from a chat with a friend
My conversations with Abhi-01
ABHI : Hi, Dibya…I wish to talk to U abt the dichotomy of our social life and personal aspirations and wishes…tell me…how many times hv u deprived urself of enjoying the spring, coz of work , family n social obligations? How many times hv you thought childhood as better, when ur mind was as light as a feather?
DIBYA: Abhi, these experiences differ frm person to person…depending upon what types of ppl hv a say in ur matters…depending upon what ur heart n mind perceives as
ur priorities…if there is significant clash between what u want or what u believe in..and the aspirations of those who form an integral,part of ur life…
ABHI : my Q is, can we fix our priorities according to our will?Suppose the morning is too pleasant for me to squander away, doing no work…can I afford to?….my obligations wud’nt permit me…suppose i want to make a solitary trip into the jungle and be with myself for a few days? will my family obligations allow me to do so? Suppose i strongly love someone, who i find to be my soulmate…will my social life allow me to speak my mind to her? being so chained for a long time, dont we come to a stage where we forget how to fly in the open sky?…either knowingly or unknowingly, we suppress our wishes n wills….
DIBYA:Abhi , U r drawing me into realms, i often traverse, all by myself…let me tell you one thing…i hv had my share of grieviances..and now I am sure U hv had urs….Of this I am sure that U have had serious conflicts between what ur heart desires..and between what the circumstances of ur life dictate
U know Abhi , there is something inside me, that raises its rebellious head at the slightest hint of suppression…be it by any individual or by any institution…till I was 14, i scarcely knew what type of person i was…..or what I wanted in life….never had any clashes with friends or elders either..the reason was I was’nt even aware, i had a person called ME to grapple with..
then slowly I started becoming aware of what makes me feel gud….i luved to trust ppl…i loved poems n what they conveyed to the extent, that I fell in love with the poets, knowing that most of them were long since dead., it did not matter to me…..I felt one with them..like I cud meet them at will, thro’ their thought processes…..philosophies interested me…my mind started raising many questions…abt religious beliefs, customs, practices…i found I never cud do the things that ppl do, without being convinced of the sensibility of what they did…
I never cud do things coz it was the Done thing…I questioned..and it is not as though i wanted that what i perceived as the Truth shd be seen in the same light by others….I always expressed my view, and left the other person free to prove me wrong….to find the loopholes in my propositions…..and the ppl i argued with were not all merely ordinary ppl..they were the best in their field….i wanted to be proved wrong….coz i know my views r very much in contrast with popular views…I use ppl more like a sounding board…..wanting all the time that I be proved wrong…coz out there where my mind thrives..it is quite lonely Abhi ..and i am as social as I am an individual, with a distinct personality that wont budge easily….so clash of sorts is always part of life…..but I live amicably with all around me…..
not coz I bow to their dictates…but inspite of being what am…..am I making sense Abhi?
ABHI: Certainly…now I get a clear picture of my friend….U r extremely inquisitive, rational and rebellious…..but surely u must know the fate that the likes of Socrates met with for going against popular beliefs……
DIBYA: ha ha ha,…I have often joked with friends, that hd I been born in another era..i wud certainly hv been burnt at the stake, like Joan of arc….for the common GOOD…
ABHI : but i find two forces always working within me…one..the centrifugal force working to tear all ties..and the other trying to tie me up with the material world,,,,,,I hv written a piece on this which i plan to publish soon…and now i understand ur passion for poetry…U know Dibya…only a true rebel is a poet…and only a poet can be a true rebel……
DIBYA: U can understand when I say, there is poetry in nature….there is poetry within me and without me…..and I mean to strike a harmony betweext the two..else what purpose , life?..surely i am not going to sacrifice my life at the altar of falsehood…..I will live true to myself……and I tell the person opposite me….u live the way u choose to…if that is what makes u happy…..if u dont have the guts to stand up for urself, then sorry no one can help you….but dont tell me that ur way is the right way…coz then I shall tell you that my way is right..then wud u leave ur way and follow mine?…then dont ask me to leave mine…we walk our ways, but we r still friends if u choose to be, coz after all I love U as a person..and I expect U to respect my individuality as a person, if not love me……
ABHI : and what is Love, Dibya, between a man and a woman..?…..is it dependence, or understanding or expectations, or passion or caring?..I have tried to find out but failed again and again……let me know ur views..I’ve something to tell you……
DIBYA: I am exploring this in the Maanav series ABHI…for me love is something u experience deep within u, for another…the one gets hurt and the other feels the pain much more than that one…U want the best for the one u love…..if that means a friend other than you, still ur heart wants only the best for that special one….U’d go to the end
of the world to see that one happy……this is not just what every poet or lover feels…..it is something I hv tested against my own feelings……and what I feel deep down for those I love…
ABHI : To me Love is a soul-searching process…it is a concept rather than something material…..In one of his poems Tagore says, we leave behind half of our soul, in some other world, at the time we r born, and we desperately try to find that other half, throughout our life…but unfortunately our tunings never match with that other half..and we go on searching…
DIBYA : Abhi, u r speaking abt what I call a soul-mate…..as a comment on one of my Maanav series, someone asked me, whether there was a thing called a soul-mate…..I wrote back that down the ages, the yearnings that r written abt in poems….the never-ending Quest…..that if the need for a supernatural being to explain away, the mysteries that surround life…can give rise to a God, then definitely this yearning that if not all, but some of us feel to meet up with that soul-mate….surely that wud prove that there is a thing called a soul-mate..my heart burns sometimes with this yearning which is inexplicable….and as you say, there must be something……else how do u explain the yearning within…..U remember my poem?..THE ETERNAL QUEST?…..I have alluded to this in that poem….my poems usually flow from deep within me Abhi….I actually live those experiences that i write of…..and I fail to understand myself..coz there is no one person I know, to whom I can attribute these feelings and say, this is the way i feel abt u….and yet those feelings and expressions of mine r real….
ABHI : now u have come to the crux of the matter…….as u said just now..that u feel something deep within ur heart, but cannot attribute it to any one…actually u r searching for ur inner self……it cannot be complemented by anyone outside……tell me what wud happen if u got ur partner?….wud the vaccuum inside you be filled up?
i think if we do meet up wid that so-called partner..then the quest appears to vanish and if we do not, then we experience pain..to hv failed in love reduces the self-confidence, coz it attacks the self esteem and the Ego…conversely a successful love affair only serves to satisfy our Ego..in a way it is again a soul searching or a self searching process…..
DIBYA : then why the yearning for something outside you Abhi….why the pangs of separation frm a being u do not even know, exists……or is it that, that being is caught in a time-zone other than that in which u find urself…?
ABHi : therein lies the magic of God..we try to find without that which lies within ourselves…..when after putting in a lot of efforts, we give up, then comes the call frm within…..we realize that love is neither a matter of absolute surrender, nor is it a matter of possession…..that is when enlightenment dawns upon ur spirit….
DIBYA : I hv often wondered abt this Abhi….has this yearning got something to do with one’s urge to merge with the Creator……is that what this inexplicable yearning is all abt?
I wud subscribe to Vivekanand’s thinking that We r part of the whole and that this part is always wanting to merge with that whole…..he speaks of the divinity within which has to manifest itself…
ABHI : I do not know the answers Dibya..I am trying to find out in my own way…..but I must say it is a great pleasure talking to u…..the philosophy u mentioned is called Dwaitawaad….but I am more interested in Adwaitawaad…..but u must be sleepy now…we shall call it a day……
DIBYA : let me tell you a joke…..
ABHI: ha ha ha…..it is indeed wonderful, that we can joke thus……
DIBYA : Abhi ..that is what life is about…having done the things u HAVE to do…do the things u WANT to do….no matter if it is standing like a fool , getting wet in the rain…or strolling off into some jungle to be with urself..or simply to stand and stare……or maybe listen to some soulful music, which is close to ur heart…..if possible with a close friend , who wud care to listen to it with you……..
posting a blog
Posted by deby in Uncategorized on September 27th, 2009
it has indeed become an alien land this rediffblogs……one cannot log in to one’s page by the regular mode, i.e the page that appears as log in takes u somewhere that says…”sorry…there is no such page as u r seeking…..or something to that effect…..”……so one has to access one’s posts through the link that happens to be there on earlier notifications in the mail ,that too by clicking on notifications on comments….rediff has not bothered to inform us about what it is up to……even posting a blog is’nt just a matter of clicking on a particular button…….one has to manouvre one’s way around and if one happens to come upon this page , by accident, one is able to post something, otherwise…..one is not able to post anything either……the same link takes u to different pages on different days…….rediff has not been fair to us bloggers….
here we are , one day enjoying this business of blogging……and the next day…….poof…..out of the blue………things turn topsy-turvy…
why cant u rediff guys have a forum where u keep us posted on ur “trial and error ” method of transitions…..
by way of comments u get a whole load of spam in ur mail……anybody is selling anything from viagara to what-have -u….guys we are shelling out in terms of internet-connexion bills……so at least we should expect some sort of fair deal…………………to rediff-guys from Deby
01-Maanav….
Posted by deby in Life, Uncategorized on September 11th, 2009
plz click on the link,
A Gene Deby Presentation,
listed alongside , in Blogroll….. to all posts on Maanav… do read and leave ur valuable comments….
…thank you
aelaan
kisi kalam se behtha hua,
mehez syaahi nahi hai yeh…
sheesha jo tootkar bikhra,
uske tukdon ka,
mehez hisaab nahi hai yeh…
mohabbat ke junoon mein ,
likhi hui ghazal hai yeh…
tum jo na aaye,
ae humsafar mere suno…
mere gulshan mein,
chaane waali pathjhad ka
aelaan hai yeh…….
33-sehra
Posted by deby in Uncategorized on September 5th, 2009
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33-sehra Sehera mein bhatak rahe thei hum toh |
32-ae mohabbat……
karthe the hum mohabbat se mohabbat…..
jab tak ke yaar se mohabbat na hui……
jab yaar se hui mohabbat…
toh dard-e-dil se mulaaqaat ho gayi…..
ae mohabbat…
tu hai kya cheez humein bata…..
kaheen tu us khanjar ki nok toh nahi…
jo din-raat humaare seene mein chubhkar..
humein lahoo-luhaan karthi hai……???….
beshak tu woh marham nahi
jiska mere zakhmon ko talaash hai…..
tujhe hum ilzaam dein bhi toh kya dein….
deewane dil ka' jo dard bhi tu hai, dawa bhi tu…….
swapn jhare phool se
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJ7wOw382rI
lyrics:neeraj…………i adore these lyrics by neeraj…….
neeraj sahab……in alfaazon ke liye, tumhein shat-shat pranaam
and ofcourse the rendition by mohd rafi …..
swapn jhare phool se
meeth chubhe shool se
lut gaye singaar sabhi
baagh ke babool se
aur ham khade khade, bahaar dekhte rahe
caravan guzar gaya ,gubaar dekhte rahe
neend bhi khuli na thi, ki haaye dhoop dhal gayi
paanv jab talaq uthe, ke zindagi fisal gayi
paath paath jhar gaye ,ke shaakh-shaakh jal gayi
chaah to nikal saki na, par umar nikal gayi
par umar nikal gayi
geet ashk ban gaye, swapn ho dafan gaye
saath ke sabhi diye, dhuaan pehen-pehen gaye
aur ham jhuke-jhuke, mod par ruke-ruke
umr ke chadhaav ka utaar dekhte rahe
kya shabaab tha, ke phool phool pyaar kar utha
kya kamaal tha, ke dekh aaina sihar utha
is taraf zameen aur aasmaan udhar utha
thaam kar jigar utha, ke jo mila nazar utha
ke jo mila nazar utha
ek din magar yahan, aisi kuch hawa chali
lut gayi kali kali, ke ghut gayi gali gali
aur ham lute-lute, waqt se pite-pite
saaz ki sharaab ka, khumaar dekhte rahe
caravan guzar gaya, gubaar dekhte rahe
haath the mile ke zulf, chaand ki sanwaar doon
hont the khule, ke har bahaar ko pukaar doon
dard tha diya gaya, ke har dukhi ko pyaar doon
aur saans yun ke swarg, bhoomi par utaar doon
bhoomi par utaar doon
ho saka na kuch magar, shaam ban gayi sehar
wo uthi leher, ke dheh gaye kile bikhar bikhar
aur ham dare dare, neer nain mein bhare
odh kar kafan pade, mazaar dekhte rahe
maang bhar chali ke ek jab nayi nayi kiran
dhol ke dhunak uthi, thumak uthe charan charan
shor mach gaya ke lo chali dulhan chali dulhan
gaanv sab umad pada, behek uthe nayan nayan
behek uthe nayan nayan
par tabhi zeher bhari ,gaaj ek weh giri
punch gaya sindoor, taar taar huyi choonri
aur ham ajaan se, door ke makaan se
paalki liye huye, kahaar dekhte rahe
caravan guzar gaya, gubaar dekhte rahe
swapn jhare phool se
meeth chubhe shool se
lut gaye singaar sabhi
baagh ke babool se
aur ham khade khade, bahaar dekhte rahe
caravan guzar gaya, gubaar dekhte rahe
caravan guzar gaya, gubaar dekhte rahe
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