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		<title>By: aam admi</title>
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		<dc:creator>aam admi</dc:creator>
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		<description>Maoists are also Indians provided they feel so ,  are they patriotic in their acts if so they are Indians , but if they are working for the interest of some foreign powers then they are not, they also blackmail and loot  the locals instead of serving them like Govt. agents. who are not allowing Govt. money to reach  poors. how can we judge them correctly ? if they accept foreingn aid. Aid never come without strings attached.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maoists are also Indians provided they feel so ,  are they patriotic in their acts if so they are Indians , but if they are working for the interest of some foreign powers then they are not, they also blackmail and loot  the locals instead of serving them like Govt. agents. who are not allowing Govt. money to reach  poors. how can we judge them correctly ? if they accept foreingn aid. Aid never come without strings attached.</p>
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		<title>By: Manas Kumar Sen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Manas Kumar Sen</dc:creator>
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		<description>Those who say ' China's Chairman is our Chairman", can they be considered as our people? They are anti nationals engaged in treasonous activities. No mercy to them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those who say &#8216; China&#8217;s Chairman is our Chairman&#8221;, can they be considered as our people? They are anti nationals engaged in treasonous activities. No mercy to them.</p>
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		<title>By: Mugundhan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mugundhan</dc:creator>
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		<description>I dont think Bhadra Kumar is condoning Marxist violence, His point is we dont remove the conditions on which terrorism thrive. It is true that terrorists invent a reason no matter how logical State is but so far I have not seen any vision from any Politician with regard to masses. They are interested in capturing power, they are making sure their party man reach the benefits as soon as they reach power and think about next elections
When they think about governance, then they will realize "Indian State" authority means not just displaying force to remove irritants but they also need to reach for people in the context of people development
Until then, any insurgency happens, we will let it grow, a major incident will happen, then State will reach furiously...
We have so called local administration down to the level of villages, authorities should be getting info, what are district collectors doing? What are state secretaries doing when they get info from collectors? What are state minsters doing when they are briefed by secretaries?
Entire administration is geared to cheating people's money by bribes nothing else, 
Unless governance takes precedence, issues outlined by Bhadrakumar will keep propping up</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I dont think Bhadra Kumar is condoning Marxist violence, His point is we dont remove the conditions on which terrorism thrive. It is true that terrorists invent a reason no matter how logical State is but so far I have not seen any vision from any Politician with regard to masses. They are interested in capturing power, they are making sure their party man reach the benefits as soon as they reach power and think about next elections<br />
When they think about governance, then they will realize &#8220;Indian State&#8221; authority means not just displaying force to remove irritants but they also need to reach for people in the context of people development<br />
Until then, any insurgency happens, we will let it grow, a major incident will happen, then State will reach furiously&#8230;<br />
We have so called local administration down to the level of villages, authorities should be getting info, what are district collectors doing? What are state secretaries doing when they get info from collectors? What are state minsters doing when they are briefed by secretaries?<br />
Entire administration is geared to cheating people&#8217;s money by bribes nothing else,<br />
Unless governance takes precedence, issues outlined by Bhadrakumar will keep propping up</p>
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		<title>By: nalini mohanty</title>
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		<dc:creator>nalini mohanty</dc:creator>
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		<description>Only terrorists are super citizen of our country. I am asking why they are blasting  schools, Mobile tower and occupied many minings, killing innocent people. We know how many indians are illitrate and not geting food per day. 
What is need of this destroying type of  Indian? India will destroy with this type of people</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Only terrorists are super citizen of our country. I am asking why they are blasting  schools, Mobile tower and occupied many minings, killing innocent people. We know how many indians are illitrate and not geting food per day.<br />
What is need of this destroying type of  Indian? India will destroy with this type of people</p>
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		<title>By: Jaganniwas Iyer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jaganniwas Iyer</dc:creator>
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		<description>If Maoists are "Indians", are our soldiers aliens?
Jaganniwas Iyer</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Maoists are &#8220;Indians&#8221;, are our soldiers aliens?<br />
Jaganniwas Iyer</p>
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		<title>By: deep</title>
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		<dc:creator>deep</dc:creator>
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		<description>who kills indians and get killed by indians...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>who kills indians and get killed by indians&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Janarddan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Janarddan</dc:creator>
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		<description>The last point is the most relevant.  The Indian Left has a Prakash Karat on its top.
Karat's speciality is that he is the first CPI-M secretary to work like a  PRO or a  media
secretary.   He comes with an attache to his office, signs attendance register, reads
out some prepared leaflets to media persons,  has lunch and then packs bag to go home.
He is the moist suited secretary to lead when criminals in the ilk of Pinarayi, Kodiyeri
and Baby make up the next in the rung.  

You are completely correct that it is the responsibility of the nation's Left to organize
a defense force in areas like Bihar-MP-Jharkhand-Chattisgarh were deprivation and 
exploitation is at its maximum.  Maoists are doing it with a limited effectiveness - what
they lack is political guidance. One strong Communist party and a defense force on the lines
of Emkhoto we sizwe of SA can bring in a vast change to India and greatly improve the 
lives of 90% of Indians who otherwise remain voiceless.

Movements emerge when society cries for one, I am sure this cry of vast Indian poor
will result in a formidable Communist movement of the kind just described.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The last point is the most relevant.  The Indian Left has a Prakash Karat on its top.<br />
Karat&#8217;s speciality is that he is the first CPI-M secretary to work like a  PRO or a  media<br />
secretary.   He comes with an attache to his office, signs attendance register, reads<br />
out some prepared leaflets to media persons,  has lunch and then packs bag to go home.<br />
He is the moist suited secretary to lead when criminals in the ilk of Pinarayi, Kodiyeri<br />
and Baby make up the next in the rung.  </p>
<p>You are completely correct that it is the responsibility of the nation&#8217;s Left to organize<br />
a defense force in areas like Bihar-MP-Jharkhand-Chattisgarh were deprivation and<br />
exploitation is at its maximum.  Maoists are doing it with a limited effectiveness - what<br />
they lack is political guidance. One strong Communist party and a defense force on the lines<br />
of Emkhoto we sizwe of SA can bring in a vast change to India and greatly improve the<br />
lives of 90% of Indians who otherwise remain voiceless.</p>
<p>Movements emerge when society cries for one, I am sure this cry of vast Indian poor<br />
will result in a formidable Communist movement of the kind just described.</p>
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		<title>By: prasun_tiwari20</title>
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		<description>Hell guys.... 
I wana knw .. Y these Political People raise ther voice wen these Maiost Dies .. Y the Held ther speeches nly wen our Security personals opens the Fire ,,, 
Y always Our Brave security personals hd 2 heard n face these situation ,,, Y
WEN ever these INHUMAN dies they make the people 2 say media tht killed people r innocent n so These Stupid MEDIA n POLITICAL leaders raise ther voice .. dey actualy 4got tht widout them these people cnt move a step , They all v l be killed by There SO CALL INNOCENT PEOPLE , 
No 1 cn prove tht those people who died ther r Maoist bt On behalf f tht ground cn v lift of our Forces 4rm these situation .. Jst LIKE DEMANDIN of LIFTIN of AFSPA 4rm J</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hell guys&#8230;.<br />
I wana knw .. Y these Political People raise ther voice wen these Maiost Dies .. Y the Held ther speeches nly wen our Security personals opens the Fire ,,,<br />
Y always Our Brave security personals hd 2 heard n face these situation ,,, Y<br />
WEN ever these INHUMAN dies they make the people 2 say media tht killed people r innocent n so These Stupid MEDIA n POLITICAL leaders raise ther voice .. dey actualy 4got tht widout them these people cnt move a step , They all v l be killed by There SO CALL INNOCENT PEOPLE ,<br />
No 1 cn prove tht those people who died ther r Maoist bt On behalf f tht ground cn v lift of our Forces 4rm these situation .. Jst LIKE DEMANDIN of LIFTIN of AFSPA 4rm J</p>
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		<title>By: tick</title>
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		<dc:creator>tick</dc:creator>
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		<description>If so, who were the remaining 17 dead souls? 
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Half-truth is a dirty word, but can be a useful tool for analysis when the reality is much too complex to comprehend and has multiple dimensions which makes sizing up the matter simply impossible. Dialectical debates enable two set of exponents to thrash out details for the audience to comprehend. 

Think Indian complexity needs trialectical (there is no such word!) debates to enable three set of exponents for audience to better appreciate the complex realities of India. Perhaps such delta mode thinking alone could help contain the issue within Indian context and lead to superior resolution of vexing issues.

The Hindutva Chintan of Saffronites has mostly tied them to mediocrity, and their disinclination to derive from the profound nirguna-saguna mode is not yet clear. If done,  saffronite responses against the Marxian dialectical assertions would be constructive and far superior.

The liberal progressive thinking of Congress has got entangled in a double think mode due to strains Cold war  imposed on its socialism-capitalism mixed-mode paradigm. Like the famed Schrodinger's cat, Congress appears to be in two states of mind at the same time! One part of it warms up to Marxian dialectics and the second part simply discards it.

 Tough policing measures are undoubtedly necessary to quell the merciless threat of Naxals. The severe toll suffered by police, with hundreds dead in Chattisgarh is a sad reminder, but it can not be factored in while facts of the matter here are ferreted out. Law must not only do it right but also be seen as doing it right; and law does include its enforcement machinery.

The risk which has to be averted is incorrect perceptions about police action adding fuel to fire, leading to greater social instability and pervasive oppressive fear in the communities to which those killed belong. Such delta mode thinking is essential for real resolution of issues.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If so, who were the remaining 17 dead souls?<br />
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<p>Half-truth is a dirty word, but can be a useful tool for analysis when the reality is much too complex to comprehend and has multiple dimensions which makes sizing up the matter simply impossible. Dialectical debates enable two set of exponents to thrash out details for the audience to comprehend. </p>
<p>Think Indian complexity needs trialectical (there is no such word!) debates to enable three set of exponents for audience to better appreciate the complex realities of India. Perhaps such delta mode thinking alone could help contain the issue within Indian context and lead to superior resolution of vexing issues.</p>
<p>The Hindutva Chintan of Saffronites has mostly tied them to mediocrity, and their disinclination to derive from the profound nirguna-saguna mode is not yet clear. If done,  saffronite responses against the Marxian dialectical assertions would be constructive and far superior.</p>
<p>The liberal progressive thinking of Congress has got entangled in a double think mode due to strains Cold war  imposed on its socialism-capitalism mixed-mode paradigm. Like the famed Schrodinger&#8217;s cat, Congress appears to be in two states of mind at the same time! One part of it warms up to Marxian dialectics and the second part simply discards it.</p>
<p> Tough policing measures are undoubtedly necessary to quell the merciless threat of Naxals. The severe toll suffered by police, with hundreds dead in Chattisgarh is a sad reminder, but it can not be factored in while facts of the matter here are ferreted out. Law must not only do it right but also be seen as doing it right; and law does include its enforcement machinery.</p>
<p>The risk which has to be averted is incorrect perceptions about police action adding fuel to fire, leading to greater social instability and pervasive oppressive fear in the communities to which those killed belong. Such delta mode thinking is essential for real resolution of issues.</p>
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		<title>By: kaipasrini@rediffmail.com</title>
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		<description>I agree with Mr.Bhadrakumar. It is the responsibility of the Central Govt. and more so the Home Ministry headed by PC to ascertain the truth and come out with the facts. Looks like the police have killed innocents and claiming to have killed Maoists. I wonder if the Home Minister can take care of the grave internal security situation posed by the Maoists. On the other side, PC carries the dubious distinction of being the Home Minister when the largest no. of CRPF personnel were killed. 

Let the Central and State Govts. give a decent burial for the dead.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Mr.Bhadrakumar. It is the responsibility of the Central Govt. and more so the Home Ministry headed by PC to ascertain the truth and come out with the facts. Looks like the police have killed innocents and claiming to have killed Maoists. I wonder if the Home Minister can take care of the grave internal security situation posed by the Maoists. On the other side, PC carries the dubious distinction of being the Home Minister when the largest no. of CRPF personnel were killed. </p>
<p>Let the Central and State Govts. give a decent burial for the dead.</p>
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