This iland is my attempt to make reading Gita a mutually enriching experience where all of us share the insights and all of us get to learn from one another. It is also to make it easier for those who have always wanted to read it, but somehow the “want” was not strong enough to put it into action against the odds like having to buy the book and having to remember to read it everyday
Or it may be simply bcos of the “stigma” attached to being caught reading Gita
Jokes apart, the posts are not ALL written by me(Though i do write sometimes!) I refer to sites of various knowledgeble persons and try to present the explaination which i find the most relevant.
If i think i cant do better than already said, i just take it as it is and provide the link to the source in the post. Sometimes i write the gist from various sources in my own language. Sometimes i write sth i read somewhere or heard somewhere from my memory. Most of the times i try to quote the source when i lift it directly. But sometimes it happens that i keep taking from the same source for a number of consecutive posts in which case i neglect to mention the same source in every post. So here after i have decided that i shall keep all the links in this category…i shall keep adding whenever i find a new source. Please excuse me incase i do not mention the source for each post, though i shall try to do the same.
This is just a voluntary clarification from my side and not prompted by any comment from anybody. As they say, prevention is better than cure ….
1. I refer to this Gita by Sivananda for the meaning of the sloka in english as well as the english text of the sloka
http://www.dlshq.org/download/bgita.htm
2. I get the word to word meaning from this site of Satya sai baba
http://bababooks.org/SathyaSaiGita/chapter2a.html
3.Swami Rama’s Lectures on the Bhagavad Gita http://www.americanyogaassociation.org/Rama%20Gita%203.html
4.Swami Venkatesananda on Gita (Sivananda’s Disciple) http://www.venkatesaya.com/72songEN/index.songEN.php?dir=jan&page=01
5. Swami krishnananda on Gita (Another disciple of Sivananda)
http://www.swami-krishnananda.org/bhagavad_00.html
Posted in References.
By TheGeetha FanClub
– April 12, 2007
2.31 स्वद्धर्ममपि चावेश्र्य न विकम्पितुमर्हसि
धर्म्याद्धि युद्धाच्छेयो अन्यत्श्रत्रियस्य न विद्यते
2.31 Swadharmam api chaavekshya na vikampitum arhasi;
Dharmyaaddhi yuddhaacchreyo'nyat kshatriyasya na vidyate.
स्वधर्मम् sva-dharmam — one’s own religious principles;
अपि api — also;
च ca — indeed;
अवेश्र्य avekshya — considering;
न na — never;
विकम्पितुम् vikampitum — to hesitate;
अर्हसि arhasi — you deserve;
धर्म्यात् dharmyaat — for religious principles;
हि hi — indeed;
युधात् yuddhaat — than fighting;
श्रेयह shreyah — better engagement;
अन्यात् anyat — any other;
श्र्त्रियस्य kshatriyasya — of the kshatriya;
न na — does not;
विद्यते vidyate — exist.
Meaning: Having regard to thy duty, thou shouldst not waver. For, there is nothing higher for a ksatriya than a righteous war.
After having talked about the immortality of the soul, and after talking at length that you are not body, not mind, not intellect, not that and not this. You are everything and everywhere etc there was the danger of the scales getting tilted. Because, the alert human mind which never misses any loop holes to avoid responsibility or duty may immediately ask, If I am everything, If I am Arjuna, Krishna, duryodhana and everyone..why should I go to war? Whom should I kill? Why is it necessary? Why cant I just sit and vegetate or even better enjoy life. Why do I have to run around catering to the needs of transient ppl.
Krishna must have realized this danger and he immediately balances "Immortality of soul" with "Karma Yoga".
Society cannot be conducted nor can man live on transcendental knowledge alone!
A synthesis of high ideals and practical common sense is essential: this is achieved in our smrti or dharma sastra which are codes of morality and which, therefore, recognise the existence (relative and fleeting) of phenomena.
As we shall see, the Bhagavad Gita emphasises one’s adherence to one’s own dharma at all costs.
So Krishna says, do not grieve bcos you are not going to "kill" anybody as such. But you have to go to war and "kill" them anyway bcos that is your duty! Hence the scales are balanced and the loop hole closed!!
Regarding where there can be sth called a "’Righteous" war or can any war be glorified of being "’Righteous" by venkatesananda (http://www.venkatesaya.com)
‘Righteous war’ was fought only in the days prior to the discovery of the aeroplane and gun-powder.
Now, no war - hot, cold or lukewarm - is righteous because there is no battlefield and there is indiscriminate destruction of all everywhere, without any restraint by proper rules of conduct.
Innocent children are killed.
Non-combatants and people who have no idea what the war is about are killed.
In the present context, all wars should be banished - hot war with guns and bombs, cold war in the field of propaganda and commerce, and lukewarm war over a conference table.
Though the philosophy of the indestructibility of the self could be applied to both commandments ‘fight’ and ‘do not fight’, it is the dharma sastra or secular duty that gives it the right direction.
Posted in karma Yoga - chap 2.
By TheGeetha FanClub
– April 11, 2007
The following are the six schools of Indian Philosophy. This highlights the fact that “the self” can be reached in more than one way and everyone was free to follow the path that suits their disposition or even to find a new path if none suits them!!!
Yoga
Practical methods for direct experience: Yoga systematically deals with all of the levels of one’s being, striving to experience the eternal center of consciousness. Yoga is best described in the Yoga Sutras and involves systematic witnessing of your inner states, so as to experientially go beyond all of them to the center of consciousness. Yoga is often called Sankhya-Yoga, as Yoga contains the practical methods to realize in direct experience the truths of Sankhya philosophy (below).
Sankhya
Framework of manifestation: Sankhya philosophy offers a framework for all the levels of manifestation, from the subtlest to the grossest. Sankhya comes from samyag akhyate, which literally means that which explains the whole. Sankhya deals with prakriti (matter), purusha (consciousness), buddhi or mahat (intelligence), ahamkara (I-am-ness), three gunas (elements of stability, activity, and lightness), mind (manas), cognitive and active senses (indriyas), and the five subtle and gross elements (earth, water, fire, air, and space). In light of its breadth, it contains all of the domains of Vaisheshika, Nyaya, and Mimasa, which are described below.
Vedanta
Contemplative self-inquiry: Vedanta philosophy and practice provides contemplative methods of self-inquiry leading to the realization of one’s true nature, that which is not subject to death, decay, or decomposition. A major key of these practices is contemplation on the Mahavakyas. The teachings of Vedanta are best captured in the books of the Upanishads. The text, Vivekachudamini (Crest Jewel of Discrimination) by Adi Shankaracharya is an excellent source, and is available in English translation.
The Dvaita, the Advaita and the Visishtadvaita are different schools of vedanta. More info about these can be found at the wikipedia link in the footnotes
Vaisheshika
Physical sciences: The Vaisheshika system was developed by Prashastapada and emphasizes the physical sciences such as chemistry. It includes exploring the elements of earth, water, fire, air and space, as well as time, mind and soul.
Nyaya
Reasoning: The Nyaya system was founded by the ancient sage Gautama, and deals with logic, the process of reasoning. Doubt is considered a prerequisite for philosophical inquiry. Other systems of Indian philosophy draw on this process.
Mimasa
Freedom through action: The Mimasa system was founded by Jaimini and pursues freedom through action. It has a detailed philosophy related to ritual, worship and ethical conduct, which developed into the philosophy of karma.
Dates of these systems: The exact dates of formalizing the six systems are not known, as the studies were originally purely oral, since writing had not yet been created. However, estimates generally range from about 2,000-3,000 or more years ago. Some say the roots of these are as much as 5,000-10,000 years ago.
source : http://www.swamij.com/six-schools-indian-philosophy.htm
Refer:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hindu_philosophy
Note: This is reposted from sahitibharadwaj.rediffiland.com as this explains “sankhya” and has some info which we may find relevant in the study of Gita
Posted in Philosophy.
By TheGeetha FanClub
– April 10, 2007
With the 30th sloka, we have completed the immortality of the soul! The much awaited Karma Yoga begins from the next sloka. A time to recap what is covered and what is to come…..
The second chapter of Gita can be broadly divided into four sections:
1. Surrender of Arjuna as a disciple.
2. Beginning of the teaching by first pointing out the main cause behind all grief, which is ignorance of the true nature of Self.
3. Role of karma in preparing our mind for the knowledge of Self.
4. Description of a Man of Perfection, the Sthita Pragnya.
Explanation:
This chapter is commonly called as 'Sankhya Yoga'. This chapter is the essence of entire Gita, and the real teaching begins from this chapter. In fact Sri Adi Sankara began his chapter wise commentary from this chapter alone. The chapter begins with the grief of Arjuna and concludes with the description of a Man of Perfection. Thus it encompasses the entire spiritual journey of man. Sankhya means knowledge and thus it has the basic knowledge which is required by man to attain that ultimate state of fulfillment. It is a big chapter comprising of 72 shlokas. The chapter reveals the main subject of Gita, its purpose, the problem of the student and the bird’s eye view of the solution offered by Lord Krishna.
The chapter dramatically begins with the description of the despondent state of Arjuna. He had already kept his great bow 'Gandiva' aside. He was in no state to hear anything else, so the first thing Lord Krishna does was to shake him up with some real harsh words. He is told that his act of leaving his rightful duty will not do him any good ' from any angle whatsoever, it was rather an act, which does not behoove a real man. If he did consider him to be a 'man' then he better get up and face the situation which has come his way.
The strong words act like a first aid, and the fellow starts talking. He says 'O Krishna ! Why don't you understand my problem? How can I ever dream of raising my hands on someone I always revered. He says that he would rather go around living like a recluse instead of killing these people. He confesses that on one side his mind says that he should get up & fight, and on the other hand wants to leave. He is no position to do either and this indecisiveness as to what is right under the situation is tearing him apart. He wants to do that which is right and under the circumstances he cannot decide what is right and that is his real problem. This incidentally is the real subject of Gita. It addresses the problem of indecisiveness, and provides a way to come out of this problem once for all. Arjuna surrenders to Lord and it is only then that the real discourse starts. The song of Lord starts flowing out of his compassion for rooting out the problem of a righteous, sincere but an ignorant person.
The first thing which Lord says that even though you talk like a knowledgeable person, but one should remember that grief is only a product of ignorance and not anything else. So the moment one experiences grief then very humbly we should accept that there is lot to be still understood about life. The basic problem is only ignorance and when the basic ignorance is eliminated then great clarity dawns, and thus decision-making becomes easy. The ignorance which really matters is the ignorance about ones real Self. Baseless perceptions about oneself brings about wrong priority and thus un-called-for expectations. Even if these expectations are fulfilled still one is where one was. So the problem needs to be handled very fundamentally. One should start from the knowledge of one Self.
Lord reveals that basically we are not a limited or a transient being. We are basically that eternal truth we call Brahman, and this is something which needs to be directly seen. In order to directly see this fact one needs to have a quiet & an unconditioned mind. Thus comes the necessity of Art of Right Action. This is what Karma Yoga all about. The famous shloka of 'Karmanye vadhikaraste' is found in this chapter alone. He who has purified his or her mind with Karma Yoga, sees the fact about oneself clearly, and becomes a 'Sthita-Pragnya' or the Man of Perfection. In the last section of this chapter Lord describes this kind of person very elaborately, and thus ends the second chapter of Gita called 'Sankhya Yoga'.
Posted in Chapter 2.
By TheGeetha FanClub
– April 9, 2007
२.३० देही नित्यमवध्यो अयं देहे सर्वस्य भारत
तस्मात्सर्वाणि भूतानि न त्वं विकम्पितुमर्हसि
2.30 Dehee nityam avadhyo'yam dehe sarvasya bhaarata;
Tasmaat sarvaani bhootaani na twam shochitum arhasi.
देही Dehee — the owner of the material body;
नित्यम् nityam — eternally;
अवध्य avadhyah — cannot be killed;
अयम् ayam — this soul;
देहे dehe — in the body;
अयम् ayam — this soul;
सर्वस्य sarvasya — of everyone;
भारत bhaarata — o descendant of Bharata;
तस्मात् Tasmaat — therefore;
सर्वाणि sarvaani — all;
भूतनि bhootaani — living entities (that are born);
न na — never;
त्वम् tvam — you;
शोचितुम् shochitum — to lament;
अर्हसि arhasi — deserve.
30. This, the Indweller in the body of everyone, is always indestructible, O Arjuna! Therefore, thou shouldst not grieve for any creature.
Posted in Immortality of Soul-chap2.
By TheGeetha FanClub
– April 5, 2007
Tool - Sense - Element
nose - smell - earth
tounge - taste - water
eyes - vision - fire
skin - touch - air
ears - hearing(sound) - sky
The sense of smell, taste, vision, touch and hearing are the 5 senses and earth, water, fire, air and sky are the 5 elements or panchabootas (pancha + bhootas)
The first element, earth has all the five senses. It retains its shape and weight. You can smell it, taste it, see it, touch it and hear through it.
- Mind can “know” this element through 5 senses. ie it is bound by 5 senses
- you keep it some where it stays there, no freedom
The second element water has no specific form. It takes the shape of the container, but it has specific weight. You cannot smell it. You can taste still taste it, see it, touch it, and you can hear the gushing of water.
-Mind can “know” this element through 4 senses ie it is bound by 4 senses
- you keep it somewhere it flows. but still obeys gravity, i.e 2 dimensional freedom
The third element fire has no taste. It can neither retain its shape nor does it carry any weight! It can be only seen and felt. Ears can hear it crackle!
-Mind can “know” this element through 3 senses ie it is bound by 3 senses
-you keep it some where it “flows” without gravity! 3 dimensional freedom
The fourth element air has no shape, weight. It cannot be seen. It can only be felt through touch and you can hear the sound of the wind.
- Mind can “know” this element through 2 senses ie it is bound by 2 senses
- you cannot keep it somewhere, bcos it is everywhere! FREEDOM !!!!
The fifth element sky cannot even be felt! It can only be known as a place of “no sound” !
- Mind can “know” this as a “space” or sth without “sound” ie it is bound by 1 sense
- sky/space exists even where there is no air. It exists not only on earth and some plants like “air” but it is absolutely everywhere, all over the cosoms! This is an element with ABSOLUTE FREEDOM
Now, “The Self” that we talk about is not bound by any of these 5 senses. So we can only marvel at it!!! It is more “all-pervading” than the all pervading space that we know of and with more freedom than the “ABSOLUTE FREEDOM”
Posted in Immortality of Soul-chap2.
By TheGeetha FanClub
– April 3, 2007
2.29 आश्र्चर्यवत्पश्यति कश्र्चिदेनम्
आश्र्चर्यवद्वदति तथैव चान्यः
आश्र्चर्यवच्चैनमन्यः र्शणोति
श्रुत्वाप्येनं वेद न चैव कश्र्चित्
2.29 Aashcharyavat pashyati kashchid enam
Aashcharyavad vadati tathaiva chaanyah;
Aashcharyavacchainam anyah shrinoti
Shrutwaapyenam veda na chaiva kashchit.
Aashcharyavat — as amazing;
pashyati — sees;
kashchit — someone;
enam — this soul;
Aashcharyavat — as amazing;
vadati — speaks of;
tath' — thus;
eva — certainly;
ca — also;
anyah — another;
Aashcharyavat — similarly amazing; c
a — also;
enam — this soul;
anyah — another;
shrinoti — hears of;
Shrutwa– having heard;
api — even;
enam — this soul;
veda — knows;
na — never;
ca — and;
eva — certainly;
kashchit — someone.
29. One sees This (the Self) as a wonder; another speaks of It as a wonder; another hears of It as a wonder; yet, having heard, none understands It at all.
Wonderful is self-realisation. The ultimate experience is non-dual and therefore inexpressible. The experience is not had by the mind. The self is conscious of itself.
It cannot be put into words, nor even formed as a concept within oneself, yet one who has had that experience tries to speak of it and can only say: “It is a wonder”!
The disciple listens to the master’s inexpressible wonderment at the transcendental experience. He is thrilled. Yet, it remains beyond the three acts of seeing, description and hearing. The self alone exists and it has to be experienced!
The disciple listens to the master’s inexpressible wonderment at the transcendental experience. He is thrilled. Yet, it remains beyond the three acts of seeing, description and hearing. The self alone exists and it has to be experienced!
Experience alone can explain “The Self”. it cannot be conveyed through the 5 senses it because it is beyond five senses. Human mind is a mere interpretor for the 5 senses and hence fails to conceptualize “the self”
Posted in Immortality of Soul-chap2.
By TheGeetha FanClub
– April 2, 2007
२.२८ अव्यक्तादीनि भूतानि व्यक्तमध्यानि भारत
अव्यक्तनिधनान्येव तत्र का परिदेवना
2.28 Avyaktaadeeni bhootaani vyaktamadhyaani bhaarata;
Avyakta nidhanaanyeva tatra kaa paridevanaa.
अव्यक्तादीनि Avyaktaadeeni — in the beginning unmanifested;
भूतानि bhootaani — all that are created;
व्यक्त vyakta — manifested;
मध्यानि madhyaani– in the middle;
भारत bhaarata — o descendant of Bharata;
अव्यक्त avyakta — nonmanifested;
निधनानि nidhanaani — when vanquished;
एव eva — it is all like that;
तत्र tatra — therefore;
का kaa — what;
परिदेवना paridevanaa — lamentation.
Meaning: Beings are unmanifested in their beginning, manifested in their middle state, O Arjuna,and unmanifested again in their end! What is there to grieve about?
Body is like the shadow that is not there in the night, diminishes till noon, and grows again as the sun goes down only to disappear at sunset! What is the point in greiving about it, fully knowing that it is bound to repeat EVERY SINGLE DAY!
This is not being fatalistic about life. Only death is what is not there in ur hands. Life is ! Your Life and the karma you do is very much in your hands. But brooding over what is not there in your hands you squander the wealth of life which is in ur hands.
The growth and disappearance of the shadow connot be controlled by you, but whether the shadow dances, runs or sits brooding is in your control.
The Bhagavatam reminds us of the mystery of life: ‘You do not work for unhappiness and yet find yourself in it. Even so, happiness will be yours unsought-for.’
Meditation upon this will rob us of all tensions, grief and delusion, and will snap all our attachments.
Posted in Immortality of Soul-chap2.
By TheGeetha FanClub
– March 30, 2007
२.२८ जातस्य हि ध्रुवो म्रुत्युर्धुवं जन्म म्रुतस्य च
तस्मादपरिहार्ये अर्थे न त्वं शोचितुमर्हसि
2.27 Jaatasya hi dhruvo mrityur dhruvam janma mritasya cha;
Tasmaad aparihaarye'rthe na twam shochitum arhasi.
जातस्य Jaatasya — of one who has taken his birth;
हि hi — certainly;
ध्रुवः dhruvah — a fact;
म्रुत्युः mrityuh — death;
ध्रुवम् dhruvam — it is also a fact;
जन्म janma — birth;
म्रुतस्य mritasya — of the dead;
च ca — also;
तस्माद् Tasmaad — therefore;
अपरिहार्ये aparihaarye — of that which is unavoidable;
अर्थे arthe — in the matter;
न na — do not;
त्वम् tvam — you;
शोचितुम् shochitum — to lament;
अर्हसि arhasi — deserve.
Meaning: For, certain is death for the born and certain is birth for the dead; therefore, over the inevitable thou shouldst not grieve.
Krishna says that even if you think the Self is born and it dies there is no cause for grief.
We should learn to accept the inevitable.
As a famous prayer goes: "God, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change; courage to change the things I can; and wisdom to know the difference."
Birth and death are inevitable; so why worry?
In the second verse, we see the cautious wording.
Death is certain for that which is born and birth is certain for the dead.
But, where is it said that the Self is born or it dies?
At best, ‘birth’ and ‘death’ are conventional expressions like the 'rising' and the ’setting’ of the sun. For not even the 'body' dies finally.
Birth and death are two apparent stages in a ceaseless change.
They have social implications, but cease to be true when investigated into.
We can accept the inevitable with wisdom and course only if we are firmly rooted in the truth or the permanent reality which is totally unaffected by these passing phenomena
Posted in Immortality of Soul-chap2.
By TheGeetha FanClub
– March 30, 2007
2.26 अथ चैनं नित्यजातं नित्यं वा मन्यसे म्रुतम्
तथापि त्वं महाबाहो नैवं शोचितुमर्हसि
2.26 Atha chainam nityajaatam nityam vaa manyase mritam;
Tathaapi twam mahaabaaho naivam shochitum arhasi.
अथ atha — if, however;
च ca — also;
एनम् enam — this soul;
नित्य जातम् nityajaatam — always born;
नित्यम् nityam — forever;
वा vaa — either;
मन्यसे manyase — you so think;
म्रुतम् mritam — dead;
तथा + अपि tath'pi — still;
त्वम् tvam — you;
महाबाहो mahaabaaho — o mighty-armed one;
न na — never;
एनम् enam — about the soul;
शोचितुम् shochitum — to lament;
अर्हसि arhasi — deserve.
Meaning: But, even if thou thinkest of It as being constantly born and dying, even then, O mighty-armed, thou shouldst not grieve!
Till now Krishna has told that the soul is eternal, He is the soul and not the body and hence he need not grieve about death. Now for the sake of common man who cannot grasp that truth, Krishna is coming down to the level of common man and telling him that even IF he thinks that HE is actually dying and being born again, he need not grieve!
The argument "why" is presented in the next sloka. It is to be noted that this is not true, Krishna says "even if" or "incase" by saying "yadi" and presents the argument to give comfort to the common man on his own ground. Such is the all inclusive divine concern and love!
Posted in Immortality of Soul-chap2.
By TheGeetha FanClub
– March 30, 2007